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Chaos or Cable TV?—How much control is enough?

I find myself returning again and again to a discussion about how social software impacts our own control over information as "information professionals." This focus (obsession) may say something about me and my general tendency to impose order/control, or it may say something about the cosmic shift that appears to be happening in how we think of the web, the information we put there, the way we organize it, how much interaction we expect, and how much we trust the public at large.

In the past 2 weeks, we’ve looked at how blogs can act as both a personal and professional means of sharing knowledge, we’ve looked at how RSS feeds can help us organize the massive influx of information swirling around on the web, and we’ve looked at how social tagging can create communities of users taking control of their own information organization. And now, as we head into this week’s discussion of wikis, we are looking, in a fundamental sense, at our own perceptions of the webpages that pop up on our screens.

In Brian Lamb’s article "Wide Open Spaces: Wikis, Ready or Not," he looks to web inventor Sir Tim Berners-Lee as he thinks back at the 1990s and the integration of the web into our information world. Berners-Lee says,

"I wanted the Web to be what I call an interactive space where everybody can edit. And I started saying “interactive,” and then I read in the media that the Web was great because it was “interactive,” meaning you could click. This was not what I meant by interactivity."

His “vision of a genuinely interactive environment rather than ‘a glorified television channel’—one in which people not only would browse pages but also would edit them as part of the process—did not disappear with the rise of the read-only Web browser. It’s churning away more actively than ever, in a vivid and chaotic Web-within-the-Web, via an anarchic breed of pages known as “wikis.’” And so, it appears, that even in its conception, the web was supposed to be a place of interaction, not just another version of cable tv. But somehow, maybe because of limitations in software or skill, we ended up with this idea of web pages being “mine” or “yours” or “the library’s,” and not the communities.

Key stage right, the social software craze.] So here we are, in our wikipedia world of interaction and instant information. Now what do we do? And can we do what we have the technology to do? Meredith’s article, “Using Wikis to Create Online Communities,” asks us to think about our own ideas of how we define “property” and, ultimately, “trespassing” on the web. She says,

"It can be difficult for people to get used to the idea of a website that anyone is allowed to add to or edit. The notion of private property is so deeply embedded in our society that it’s difficult to imagine going onto someone else’s website and changing things, even when they want us to. We’re accustomed to websites where someone is the final arbiter on what can or cannot go into it. With a wiki, everyone is the final arbiter...The wiki will develop organically to reflect the interests and needs of the group who worked on it."

Sounds great, right? But I wonder what my goal would be in creating a page my users could edit, and I would have to wonder if, in reality, I was actually looking for major contributions or just editorial comments. Taking this to the extreme, do we want to surrender control over the structure of our library homepage? What's an information professional to do?!?

Well, as Lamb suggests, we should give into the chaos. He says that for wikis to work, "the participants need to be in control of the content—you have to give it over fully." He goes on to conclude that it's not enough for us to adjust the technical configuration and delivery, we have to challenge "the social norms and practices of the course as well." Okay, so what does that look like in the real world? And, realistically, what can we expect from our users? And, again realistically, what should we expect from our users? In the Lamb article, this time providing a quote by Clay Shirky, I found this little pearl: "A wiki in the hands of a healthy community works. A wiki in the hands of an indifferent community fails. The software makes no attempt to add "process" in order to keep people from doing stupid things." And I suppose, from a critical standpoint, what we need to consider when opening up our pages for editing by John/Jane Q. Public, is whether we really want to hear what they have to say. Obviously, no one is suggesting putting all MARC records in wiki form, but how far will we go in allowing for contributions/edits? In time, will all wikis actually self-regulate themselves?

I have been thinking about how we can use a wiki (or these social software tools in general) to allow for user input for our finding aids. I have grandeous ideas of free flowing ideas, building our knowledge base, and collection descriptions that contain every piece of information that can be included. And then I float back down to reality. As inspiring as this theory of the great democratization of information and knowledge sharing is, I have my doubts… Again quoting Lamb, "[h]uman nature being what it is, to allow free access to hard-earned content is to indulge open-source utopianism beyond reason."

Somebody get this woman a

Somebody get this woman a weblog!

Oh. Wait. We gave her one. Well, get her a permanent one! There aren't enough blogging archivists anyway.

Seriously, this is a smart and thoughtful post, that has repercussions well beyond wikis. It's worth thinking about the kind of stance that social-software tools make their users adopt toward each other -- it isn't the same for every tool.

A wiki, as you imply, tends to assume a world in which all participants are more or less equal. In practice, it's more complicated than that; wikis can have administrators, wikis can limit who's allowed to author or edit them, people can have different rights on different pages, and so on. (Wikipedia itself is an example of a supposedly "open" practice that in reality is anything but -- the hierarchy on Wikipedia is downright byzantine.) But by and large, on a wiki nobody knows you're a dog, and in some circumstances, that's simply inappropriate.

Compare this to a weblog. A typical weblog has authors and commenters, and it's usually crystal-clear that the authors are the "owners" of the site, with more status, more privilege, and more content ownership than commenters. The affordances are different, and so the way people behave is different. Note that Casey Bisson turned his OPAC into a weblog, not a wiki! Weblog-like "commentary" tools are popping up in lots of non-weblog-like places (see Amelia Abreu's screencast for a few examples) precisely because they maintain a clear divide between owner/maintainer and commenter. Sometimes, that's a necessary, prudent, and useful divide.

Social-bookmarking tools are even one more remove away -- they're a little like remote commenting or remote reviewing, in a weird and secondhand sort of way. I don't "own" a site because I bookmark it in del.icio.us. I can comment on it, though, through my use of tags. And once there's enough of a mass of fellow commenters, the aggregate judgment becomes an item of interest in and of itself.

So it comes down to "match the tool to the job" -- or in this case, "match the tool to the desired set of roles."

Heh. And just after I write

Heh. And just after I write this, I come across Laura Cohen's musings on social software as academic-review tool. The world is just too gosh-darn small sometimes.

"Wikipedia itself is an

"Wikipedia itself is an example of a supposedly 'open' practice that in reality is anything but -- the hierarchy on Wikipedia is downright byzantine."

And I guess this is what my suspicion is. Wikis and blogs allow for quick & easy editing that doesn't have to go through a web master, but I feel like there is a false sense of "freeness & openness" being promised that might not actually exist.

I am, actually, in charge of our web page, and I am also the administator for our wiki & blog. I've given people varying levels of permissions for the wiki, even down to deciding that our wiki is password protected-- though that can change with a click.

I also moderate every comment that goes to our blog, which is sort of funny, given what I've written as an invitiation: when I say "Your knowledge helps us grow and improve! Please visit our blog to share your thoughts, ideas, & memories of OSU" and give the blog address, I'm actually inviting them to write to me, and I'll decide if the post goes through. Though, I must confess, this is just a security measure because content from the blog goes to our main site.

 

Yes, you're absolutely

Yes, you're absolutely right. Sometimes the "free and open" hype misrepresents reality. Obviously this is both good and bad -- good if 100% openness isn't actually desirable, bad because expectations get crossed.

As for your blog policies, as long as they're clearly laid out somewhere (as in, commenters are informed why their comments don't show up immediately!), I don't see a problem.

I love your comments on this

I love your comments on this issue. I had similar thoughts but probably wouldn't have expressed them as eloquently. I read the Lamb article this afternoon, and when I read that Sir Tim Berners-Lee had envisioned the Web as a place where anyone could edit as they browsed, my gut reaction was, "Yikes! Why?" The thought that first popped into my head, I guess, was my slaving away at a website for my business, only to have random strangers fooling around with it. Maybe I'm a control freak, but I love the idea of a little administrative control.

Along these lines, I heard something interesting on the radio today. A political blog had posted a story about the assassination attempt on Dick Cheney in Afghanistan. Apparently lots of comments expressed deep regrets that Cheney wasn't killed. A talk show host picked up on this and started reading the comments out over the air. Within thirty minutes, the radio host announced that the most offensive comments had been removed--so I guess the blog owners got the word that the site was becoming news, itself--and didn't like it. I wondered, had they screened the comments at first and thought they were okay, then panicked at the negative publicity? Or had a policy of letting anything through without screening, maybe hadn't even seen the comments yet? I really wondered, especially in light of our discussions the last couple of weeks.

Isn't it funny when blogs

Isn't it funny when blogs about the news become news? So wonderfully circuitous... It's like blogging from the political conventions or th red carpet at awards shows. So those of us who aren't there can pretend we are without all the necessary planning and primping.

I suppose the reality is that there are a lot of people out there who see an open-edit policy as a place to vent and have their voices heard. And there are a lot of people we just don't want to hear! (Like those trying to sell me drugs for my medical "problems" or inviting me to their "social" websites?) I can't imagine what the head of our library would do if ANY of the comments I've moderated were posted on our webpage! Or I could see it as a new marketing device... A lesson on preserving electronic records? History coming alive?

Yes, I think the "why" comes up a lot--from my husband to colleagues. You know the signs: eyes glaze over and you've lost them. Once upon a time, I thought of trying to creat subject guides in our wiki ("How to do Research in an Archive in 12 Easy Steps"), but then I got caught up how I would publicize, give access (we have student info on our wiki), and keep the information in a relatively "pure" form; what I realized that that I was getting caught up in my desire to use this medium. And what I really needed was a webpage...

Tiah, I just wanted to take

Tiah,

I just wanted to take this opportunity to say how much I've enjoyed your posts (and discussion, and the other comments spurred by this.) My contribution to the program was the very broad (and not so deep) review on archives/special collections using social technologies. The intention was to bring the concerns of archivists into the arena, and hopefully to encourage 2.0-inclined folks to take an interest in what archivists do, and how social software could possibly help serve them.

The issues you've mentioned- documenting user experiences, incorporating user descriptions into descriptive records, and finding a way for this to fit into the archival agenda, are huge challenges that, in my opinion, are going to determine how archives are accessed and used in the future. Because, as institutions of cultural memory, we're going to have to determine how we fit in to our communities, and what our ongoing relationship will look like.

I'm so glad that there are other archivists interested in these issues, and conversely, happy that someone is repping for the archives community on 5 Weeks. If you don't get the chance to join the chat on Friday, email or IM me, as I'd love to hear more from you.

Amelia

Oh, and your last comment

Oh, and your last comment (on blogs/news/blogs as news) reminded me of last night's Frontline: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/newswar/part3/

Hi Amelia-- thanks for the

Hi Amelia-- thanks for the feedbback!

I just finshed your screencast yesterday afternoon and was glad to hear you were thinking/brainstorming about how archives & archivists can use these tools. I really do believe that opening things up to our community and researchers is a great way to build our knowledge base & enrich our own collections, but I also think it might have implications for donors/donor relations 15 years from now.

Making our archive an alive and active place is one of my goals. It's hard enough to find stuff here, so let's at least make it welcoming! At the same time, I struggle with whether our community of users is composed of the sort of people who read blogs or make comments on Flickr-- honestly, I don't know. Sometimes I feel like a science teacher who spends hours and hours on an experiment, only to bring it to a class full of blank stares. I struggle with both the insecurity of a new archivist, questioning my own ability to find anything and provide a useful service to the public, and the enthusiasm and arrogance of a new archivist, feeling like I have TONS to offer and still loves seeing my name in print.

What time is the chat on Friday? I can't seem to find the time (and have forgotten where I found it before).

 

It's Friday at 2 pm ET. More

It's Friday at 2 pm ET. More info on the Synchronous Chat wiki page, but I'll start transferring that information to the class pages too.

Great, thanks. Sometimes I

Great, thanks. Sometimes I get a little lost in my own calendar...

"I really do believe that

"I really do believe that opening things up to our community and researchers is a great way to build our knowledge base & enrich our own collections, but I also think it might have implications for donors/donor relations 15 years from now."

Are you talking about donors of material or financial donors?

I was thinking about donors

I was thinking about donors of materials, but I think I could have been talking about donors of money as well. If we (archives) stay in "the game" and evolve with the community, I think we have a greater chance for soliciting money and materials.

Although, at the same time, I think our own attitude toward evolution will have an impact on this as well. If we begrudgingly adopt/adapt, then we are in danger of changing only because we have to; but I think those us in this class and those outside who are playing with these new technologies (and thinking about their implications) are setting the stage for how we will be perceived in the future.

I know, image isn't everything, but I think it does count for something...

After reading this post, I

After reading this post, I also wonder how much of the librarian or academics difficulty with this stems from our old obsession with copyright.  It can be really difficult to say "everybody have at it" when we are accustomed to thinking in terms of protecting "intellectual property".

Definitely! I think

Definitely! I think Meredith's thoughts on the perceived intellectual property of websites speaks to this for the general public, but you are right in considering how that same intellectual property is vital to our own professional definition.

I was talking with some of the OSU librarians this morning about a citation/literature review session they put on for graduate students. It made me think about how different, and varied, the sources for information are... I haven't been out of grad school for long, but back when I wrote papers (rather than long-winded blog entries) it was pretty safe to assume anything that started with www. and ended with .com could be put in the recycle bin. But I look at the quality of some of the websites and blog posts out there (citations and all!) and I think things are REALLY changing! And probably re-evaluating what constitutes "scholarly" writing...